DSB

May 16 2013, 04:09 AM

Sjk8

May 15 2013, 05:27 PM

DSB

May 15 2013, 04:39 AM

Since when did Potara increase someone's potential ?

On the basis of potential , SSj4 Gotenks eats SSj4 Vegito

For the sake of an example:

- Goku's max potential (Ssj4 Goku) = 5
- Vegeta's max potential (Ssj4 Vegeta) = 5
- Goten's max potential (Ssj4 Goten) = 20
- Trunks' max potential (Ssj4 Trunks) = 20

- Fusion boost = 10
- Potara at Vegito = 100

Well then:

- Ssj4 Gogeta = (Ssj4 Goku + Ssj4 Vegeta)*fusion boost = 100
- Ssj4 Gotenks = (Ssj4 Goten + Ssj4 Trunks)*fusion boost = 400
- Ssj4 Vegito = (Ssj4 Goku + Ssj4 Vegeta)*Potara boost = 1000

Do you see it? Even if Goku and Vegeta have less potential than the kids, Ssj4 Vegito can be way stronger than Ssj4 Gotenks, since when you talk about fusion's potential you also have to take into account the fusion boost, and Potara (at Vegito) > Potara > dance.
Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance, because, since he has the same fusion boost of Gotenks, Gotenks would clearly have the edge since the kids have more full potential than the fathers.

So, it's all up to how much bigger the gap between the rival boosted Potara and the dance is, and if that gap is bigger or not than the distance between kids' and adults' potential; personally, despite the kids having more potential, I can clearly see the rival boosted Potara covering the gap, and thus Ssj4 Vegito beating down any form of Gotenks, like the spoiled little brat he his.

PS: again, all this blatantly ignoring which actually is the fusion formula of Vegito given by official SEG...

Do u even realize that potara increases power and not potential ?

And Kids were always ahead of their dads in terms of potential

This would be it :

SSj4 Gotenks > SSj4 Vegito = SSj4 Gogeta

Vegito will have a lesser boost than Gogeta

Sjk8

May 16 2013, 09:32 AM

DSB

May 16 2013, 04:09 AM

Sjk8

May 15 2013, 05:27 PM

DSB

May 15 2013, 04:39 AM

Since when did Potara increase someone's potential ?

On the basis of potential , SSj4 Gotenks eats SSj4 Vegito

For the sake of an example:

- Goku's max potential (Ssj4 Goku) = 5
- Vegeta's max potential (Ssj4 Vegeta) = 5
- Goten's max potential (Ssj4 Goten) = 20
- Trunks' max potential (Ssj4 Trunks) = 20

- Fusion boost = 10
- Potara at Vegito = 100

Well then:

- Ssj4 Gogeta = (Ssj4 Goku + Ssj4 Vegeta)*fusion boost = 100
- Ssj4 Gotenks = (Ssj4 Goten + Ssj4 Trunks)*fusion boost = 400
- Ssj4 Vegito = (Ssj4 Goku + Ssj4 Vegeta)*Potara boost = 1000

Do you see it? Even if Goku and Vegeta have less potential than the kids, Ssj4 Vegito can be way stronger than Ssj4 Gotenks, since when you talk about fusion's potential you also have to take into account the fusion boost, and Potara (at Vegito) > Potara > dance.
Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance, because, since he has the same fusion boost of Gotenks, Gotenks would clearly have the edge since the kids have more full potential than the fathers.

So, it's all up to how much bigger the gap between the rival boosted Potara and the dance is, and if that gap is bigger or not than the distance between kids' and adults' potential; personally, despite the kids having more potential, I can clearly see the rival boosted Potara covering the gap, and thus Ssj4 Vegito beating down any form of Gotenks, like the spoiled little brat he his.

PS: again, all this blatantly ignoring which actually is the fusion formula of Vegito given by official SEG...

Do u even realize that potara increases power and not potential ?

And Kids were always ahead of their dads in terms of potential

This would be it :

SSj4 Gotenks > SSj4 Vegito = SSj4 Gogeta

Vegito will have a lesser boost than Gogeta

When you talk about Ssj4, power IS potential.
If the potential (=power) of two Ssj4 is combined in a greater way (Potara) than another (dance), the result of Potara has a greater power (=potential) than the result of the dance.

If base Vegito goes Ssj4, it's not Goku and Vegeta going Ssj4, it's Vegito himself, a guy who is (Goku + Vegeta)*Potara boost: so, Vegito going Ssj4 is = (Goku's potential + Vegeta's potential)*Potara boost.
The same happens to Gogeta, but, since fusion boost is much smaller, Goku's and Vegeta's potentials are combined with a way lesser effect.

The same thing would go for the kids: a Potara Gotenks would have a much greater potential than regular Gotenks, because the potential of the kids would be combined with a greater effect thanks to Potara's superiority over fusion dance.

It's not that hard to understand.

DSB

May 16 2013, 09:58 AM

Sjk8

May 16 2013, 09:32 AM

DSB

May 16 2013, 04:09 AM

Sjk8

May 15 2013, 05:27 PM

DSB

May 15 2013, 04:39 AM

Since when did Potara increase someone's potential ?

On the basis of potential , SSj4 Gotenks eats SSj4 Vegito

For the sake of an example:

- Goku's max potential (Ssj4 Goku) = 5
- Vegeta's max potential (Ssj4 Vegeta) = 5
- Goten's max potential (Ssj4 Goten) = 20
- Trunks' max potential (Ssj4 Trunks) = 20

- Fusion boost = 10
- Potara at Vegito = 100

Well then:

- Ssj4 Gogeta = (Ssj4 Goku + Ssj4 Vegeta)*fusion boost = 100
- Ssj4 Gotenks = (Ssj4 Goten + Ssj4 Trunks)*fusion boost = 400
- Ssj4 Vegito = (Ssj4 Goku + Ssj4 Vegeta)*Potara boost = 1000

Do you see it? Even if Goku and Vegeta have less potential than the kids, Ssj4 Vegito can be way stronger than Ssj4 Gotenks, since when you talk about fusion's potential you also have to take into account the fusion boost, and Potara (at Vegito) > Potara > dance.
Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance, because, since he has the same fusion boost of Gotenks, Gotenks would clearly have the edge since the kids have more full potential than the fathers.

So, it's all up to how much bigger the gap between the rival boosted Potara and the dance is, and if that gap is bigger or not than the distance between kids' and adults' potential; personally, despite the kids having more potential, I can clearly see the rival boosted Potara covering the gap, and thus Ssj4 Vegito beating down any form of Gotenks, like the spoiled little brat he his.

PS: again, all this blatantly ignoring which actually is the fusion formula of Vegito given by official SEG...

Do u even realize that potara increases power and not potential ?

And Kids were always ahead of their dads in terms of potential

This would be it :

SSj4 Gotenks > SSj4 Vegito = SSj4 Gogeta

Vegito will have a lesser boost than Gogeta

When you talk about Ssj4, power IS potential.
If the potential (=power) of two Ssj4 is combined in a greater way (Potara) than another (dance), the result of Potara has a greater power (=potential) than the result of the dance.

If base Vegito goes Ssj4, it's not Goku and Vegeta going Ssj4, it's Vegito himself, a guy who is (Goku + Vegeta)*Potara boost: so, Vegito going Ssj4 is = (Goku's potential + Vegeta's potential)*Potara boost.
The same happens to Gogeta, but, since fusion boost is much smaller, Goku's and Vegeta's potentials are combined with a way lesser effect.

The same thing would go for the kids: a Potara Gotenks would have a much greater potential than regular Gotenks, because the potential of the kids would be combined with a greater effect thanks to Potara's superiority over fusion dance.

It's not that hard to understand.

Its hard becoz its not the right way of thinking

Potara gives a BIGGER EXTERNAL power Boost [keep aside Rival Boost] than the Fusion Dance

Gogeta and Vegito have the same Potential , But Vegito is much stronger becoz of the boost

DSB

May 16 2013, 11:38 AM

There is another way of disproving it ...

Gogeta's Potential = Vegito's Potential

Vegito >> Gogeta becoz Potara gave Vegito more power and more of his potential power is used up

So , when Vegito and Gogeta goes SSj4 , Vegito will have a lesser boost than Gogeta and end up having the same power as SSj4 Gogeta

Darth Pyrus

May 16 2013, 06:16 AM

You could argue that the regular Super Saiyan forms bring out a chunk out of the Saiyan's current potential, but not all of it.